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Wishing Alex Melusky well in his campaign to take McCain's seat in congress for Arizona. Alex is a long time campaigner for a flat tax to replace other taxes which are unfair. Australia needs someone of his initiative too. McCain's service is exemplary, but it is time for change and Alex offers what is needed, if he can get the funds to make the campaign. There are rules as to who can contribute to Alex's campaign and The Conservative Voice would be happy to pass on essential details to any US citizen wishing to help.
Smoke and mirrors surrounds the Liberal Party Leadership as the press fight to keep their narrative which is divorced from reality. Staggering is the recent creation of a political position within the conservative movement, the 'Moderate.' The Moderate is not a conservative. They are centrist and wet, whereas a conservative is hardline and dry. Inside the Moderate fantasy, the conservative will unreasonably try to make rational economic decisions even if they are at odds with social needs. The Moderate is a kind of swing voter, who will embrace what is 'best for all.' The problem with the Moderate fantasy is that it is divorced, totally separate from reality. It doesn't provide for rational decision making, but excuses bad policy under the understanding that the Moderate leader meant well. It is literally promising but not doing of the type that scarred many Australian governments under the ALP. No policy which is unaffordable can survive because it will be gone once the nation is broke. Conservatives of the economic variety actually are providing generously for those they administer, if given the chance. As an example, under Howard, Australia paid people to be parents and own houses while still providing a surplus and future fund. Rudd labelled it reckless spending and so ALP took government and now there is no baby bonus and fewer housing incentives and substantial, crippling debt. Any spending program that might have been supported is gone. And now cuts must be made or it will be harder in the future, with other spending programs that are made unaffordable by debt having to be cut. The myth of the Moderate may be seductive, but it is dangerous and stupid.
Malcolm Turnbull is an effective Minister with drive and energy. But he is also not a PM and has nothing to offer the position. Malcolm does not offer a clear vision, but a banker's choice of policy where even a carbon tax can be embraced as one more tax. But a carbon tax is an impost on industry and limits growth and opportunity. A carbon tax is not a good impost on an economy, although it could raise tax funds. The kind of decision making is a warning for the kind of PM Malcolm could be. He betrays the trust constituents place on him and does what he feels is pragmatic. Mr Abbott, on the other hand, is complex and with scruples that inform his leadership. Mr Abbott correctly belied the cat on a carbon tax because his nuanced ideology allowed him to see it offered nothing worthwhile. As I wrote to Malcolm while he was leader of the Liberal Party, it is ok to have scruples, conservatives do, and so long as one follows their vision a conservative leader will prosper. By embracing the carbon tax, Malcolm showed he had no vision. He claimed he believed in anthropogenic global warming .. a dangerous belief no rational person can hold. Recently, Mr Turnbull has copied Mr Abbott's expressions of listening more and being more consultative. The truth is he has undermined the leadership for years and it has cost a number of elections as a result. It is to be expected that a conservative Minister is ambitious. But Malcolm is old, past his date as a party leader, and not a natural conservative, fitting more into the role of Moderate. That is why, if there is a spill on Tuesday, I will advocate that Mr Abbott be PM, and Scott Morrison should be Deputy.
Julie Bishop is an outstanding talent and has much to offer the leadership team of the Liberal Party. But she has failed abysmally in any mentoring role of her fellow WA colleagues. Any prospective leader of the Liberal Party must be able to influence their colleagues and work to improve and focus their drive. Instead, Bishop has been embarrassed by her dopy colleagues making outrageously stupid and obstructive comments on a host of issues, so that they threaten to bring the party into disrepute, making it harder to elect. It isn't hard to sell the conservative brand .. they will make you richer. They will give you more than you know and keep it sustainable. But those yokels have delved into tribal 'us vs them' arguments which the ALP employ. And to use an ALP expression, we aren't them.
In 1301, on this day, Edward of Caernarvon became the first Prince of Wales. Later he became Edward II. Just like the longest serving Prince of Wales, Edward was of dubious integrity. In 1497, the 'bonfire of the vanities' occurred in Florence, inspiring book burners to this day. The Action of 7th February 1813 saw a French and a Great British ship squared off for a draw after four hours of fighting. Both ships returned to port to claim victory. Neither ship had had an advantage. In 1856, Tasmania's colonial government passed the second ever legislation providing for a secret ballot. In 1898, Writer Émile Zola was charged with libel for his article J'Accuse which correctly belled the injustice of falsely accusing a Jew of treason and covering it up. In 1935, Monopoly was made a board game. In 1940, Pinocchio, the second full feature length animation was completed by Disney. In 1962, JFK bought his last Cuban cigar. In 1964, Beatles arrived in the US for the first time. In 1979, for the first time since either had been discovered, Pluto went inside Neptune's orbit. In 1990, the Central Committee agreed to give up its' monopoly on power in the Soviet Union. 1995, Ramzi Youssef, who masterminded the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing was arrested in Pakistan. 2009, an inept ALP Victorian government killed 173 from mishandling forest with forest fires. They were returned to government in late 2014.
2014
Some years ago Al Gore put out an example of Pascal's Wager to prevent a Hobson's Choice of embracing AGW hysteria or death for all. The idea was to list options, embrace hysteria or not, matched with the binary possibility of it being real or not. According to Gore, the outcomes were: to address a global warming that was happening; to address a global warming that wasn't happening; to lose everything by failing to address global warming; or, to gain little by business as normal. His rhetoric suggested that Pascal would say that it was wisdom to spend big addressing global warming. But, it was rhetoric, and the actual choices were as follows: Impoverish the poorest and restrict industry from being able to address Global warming in the future; Impoverish the poorest and restrict the ability of industry to grow for no reason; Enable business to change and adapt to a future that is challenging; Enable business to change and adapt to a future that isn't challenging. In the cold hard light of reality, the choice is obvious. If you really believe that Global Warming is a reality, you need to strengthen industry and allow poor people to be able to lift themselves out of poverty and assert what is in their best interests. If Gore's fears are real, then it is important the world find anyone who, like Gore, has stolen trillions of dollars from the poorest people in the world and make them face justice at the Hague, charged with crimes against humanity. I suggest a guillotine as being compassionate justice for the hundred worst offenders.
Bill Shorten was instrumental in changing SPC worker's conditions forever .. according to him. It may well be the most honest thing he has said in public life if, as is possible, SPC closes forever. A monster has married a 12 year old girl in a religious ceremony in NSW. No word as to which religion was involved, but a Lebanese male university student who had married and had a sexual relationship with a 13 year old girl was formally refused bail in Sydney on Friday. It is alleged he had befriended the 12 year old girl at a mosque in the Hunter region. Another boat has been turned back, and no apology from those who said that that could not happen.
Historical perspectives on this day
In 457, Leo I became emperor of the Byzantine Empire. 1074, Pandulf IV of Benevento was killed battling the invading Normans at the Battle of Montesarchio. 1301, Edward of Caernarvon (later King Edward II of England) became the first English Prince of Wales. 1497, the bonfire of the vanities occurred in which supporters of Girolamo Savonarola burned thousands of objects like cosmetics, art, and books in Florence, Italy. 1783, American Revolutionary War: French and Spanish forces lifted the Great Siege of Gibraltar. 1795, the 11th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified.
In 1807, Napoleonic Wars: Battle of Eylau – Napoléon's French Empire began fighting against Russian and Prussian forces of the Fourth Coalition at Eylau, Poland. 1812, the strongest in a series of earthquakes struck New Madrid, Missouri. 1813, Action of 7 February 1813: stalemate two evenly matched frigates from the French Navy and the British Royal Navy, Aréthuse and HMS Amelia. 1819, Sir Thomas Stamford Raffles left Singapore after just taking it over, leaving it in the hands of William Farquhar. 1842, Battle of Debre Tabor: Ras Ali Alula, Regent of the Emperor of Ethiopia defeated warlord Wube Haile Maryam of Semien. 1856, the colonial Tasmanian Parliament passed the second piece of legislation (the Electoral Act of 1856) anywhere in the world providing for elections by way of a secret ballot.
In 1863, HMS Orpheus sank off the coast of Auckland, New Zealand, killing 189. 1894, the Cripple Creek miner's strike, led by the Western Federation of Miners, began in Cripple Creek, Colorado. 1897, Greco-Turkish War: The first full-scale battle took place when the Greek expeditionary force in Crete defeated a 4,000-strong Ottoman force at Livadeia. 1898, Dreyfus affair: Émile Zola was brought to trial for libel for publishing J'Accuse. 1900, Second Boer War: British troops failed in their third attempt to lift the Siege of Ladysmith. 1904, a fire in Baltimore, Maryland destroyed over 1,500 buildings in 30 hours. 1907, the Mud March was the first large procession organised by the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS). 1935, the classic board game Monopoly was invented.
In 1940, the second full-length animated Walt Disney film, Pinocchio, premiered. 1943, World War II: Imperial Japanese Navy forces completed the evacuation of Imperial Japanese Army troops from Guadalcanal during Operation Ke, ending Japanese attempts to retake the island from Allied forces in the Guadalcanal Campaign. 1944, World War II: In Anzio, Italy, German forces launched a counteroffensive during the Allied Operation Shingle. 1951, Korean War: 705 suspected communist sympathisers were butchered by South Korean forces. 1962, the United States banned all Cuban imports and exports. 1964, the Beatles first arrive in the United States. Their performance on The Ed Sullivan Show two days later would mark the beginning of the British Invasion. 1974, Grenada gained independence from the United Kingdom. 1979, Pluto moved inside Neptune's orbit for the first time since either was discovered. 1984, Space Shuttle program: STS-41-B Mission – Astronauts Bruce McCandless II and Robert L. Stewart made the first untethered space walk using the Manned Maneuvering Unit (MMU). 1986, twenty-eight years of one-family rule ended in Haiti, when President Jean-Claude Duvalier fled the Caribbean nation.
In 1990, Dissolution of the Soviet Union: The Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party agreed to give up its monopoly on power. 1991, Haiti's first democratically-elected president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, was sworn in. 1992, the Maastricht Treaty was signed, leading to the creation of the European Union. 1995, Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was arrested in Islamabad, Pakistan. 1999, Crown Prince Abdullah became the King of Jordan on the death of his father, King Hussein. 2009, Bushfires in Victoria left 173 dead in the worst natural disaster in Australia's history. 2012, President Mohamed Nasheed of the Republic of Maldives resigned, after 23 days of anti-governmental protests calling for the release of Chief Judge unlawfully arrested by the military. 2013, at least 51 people were killed in a crash involving a bus and truck in Zambia. 2014, over 350 people were injured in the anti-government unrest in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
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This column welcomes feedback and criticism. The column is not made up but based on the days events and articles which are then placed in the feed. So they may not have an apparent cohesion they would have had were they made up.
===
Editorials will appear in the "History in a Year by the Conservative Voice" series, starting with August www.createspace.com/4124406, October www.createspace.com/5106951, or at Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/1482020262/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_dVHPub0MQKDZ4 The kindle version is cheaper, but the soft back version allows the purchase of a kindle version for just $3.99 more.
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For twenty two years I have been responsibly addressing an issue, and I cannot carry on. I am petitioning the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott to remedy my distress. I leave it up to him if he chooses to address the issue. Regardless of your opinion of conservative government, the issue is pressing. Please sign my petition at www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/tony-abbott-remedy-the-persecution-of-dd-ball
Or the US President at
www.change.org/p/barack-obama-change-this-injustice#
or
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/change-injustice-faced-david-daniel-ball-after-he-reported-bungled-pedophile-investigation-and/b8mxPWtJ or wh.gov/ilXYR
Douglas Sutherland-Bruce via David Daniel Ball
Mr Ball, I will not sign your petition as it will do no good, but I will share your message and ask as many of friends who read it, to share it also. Let us see if we cannot use the power of the internet to spread the word of these infamous killings. As a father and a former soldier, I cannot, could not, justify ignoring this appalling action by the perpetrators, whoever they may; I thank you Douglas. You are wrong about the petition. Signing it is as worthless and meaningless an act as voting. A stand up guy would know that. - ed
Lorraine Allen Hider I signed the petition ages ago David, with pleasure, nobody knows what it's like until they've been there. Keep heart David take care.
I have begun a bulletin board (http://theconservativevoice.freeforums.net) which will allow greater latitude for members to post and interact. It is not subject to FB policy and so greater range is allowed in posts. Also there are private members rooms in which nothing is censored, except abuse. All welcome, registration is free.
===
Wishing Alex Melusky well in his campaign to take McCain's seat in congress for Arizona. Alex is a long time campaigner for a flat tax to replace other taxes which are unfair. Australia needs someone of his initiative too. McCain's service is exemplary, but it is time for change and Alex offers what is needed, if he can get the funds to make the campaign. There are rules as to who can contribute to Alex's campaign and The Conservative Voice would be happy to pass on essential details to any US citizen wishing to help.
Smoke and mirrors surrounds the Liberal Party Leadership as the press fight to keep their narrative which is divorced from reality. Staggering is the recent creation of a political position within the conservative movement, the 'Moderate.' The Moderate is not a conservative. They are centrist and wet, whereas a conservative is hardline and dry. Inside the Moderate fantasy, the conservative will unreasonably try to make rational economic decisions even if they are at odds with social needs. The Moderate is a kind of swing voter, who will embrace what is 'best for all.' The problem with the Moderate fantasy is that it is divorced, totally separate from reality. It doesn't provide for rational decision making, but excuses bad policy under the understanding that the Moderate leader meant well. It is literally promising but not doing of the type that scarred many Australian governments under the ALP. No policy which is unaffordable can survive because it will be gone once the nation is broke. Conservatives of the economic variety actually are providing generously for those they administer, if given the chance. As an example, under Howard, Australia paid people to be parents and own houses while still providing a surplus and future fund. Rudd labelled it reckless spending and so ALP took government and now there is no baby bonus and fewer housing incentives and substantial, crippling debt. Any spending program that might have been supported is gone. And now cuts must be made or it will be harder in the future, with other spending programs that are made unaffordable by debt having to be cut. The myth of the Moderate may be seductive, but it is dangerous and stupid.
Malcolm Turnbull is an effective Minister with drive and energy. But he is also not a PM and has nothing to offer the position. Malcolm does not offer a clear vision, but a banker's choice of policy where even a carbon tax can be embraced as one more tax. But a carbon tax is an impost on industry and limits growth and opportunity. A carbon tax is not a good impost on an economy, although it could raise tax funds. The kind of decision making is a warning for the kind of PM Malcolm could be. He betrays the trust constituents place on him and does what he feels is pragmatic. Mr Abbott, on the other hand, is complex and with scruples that inform his leadership. Mr Abbott correctly belied the cat on a carbon tax because his nuanced ideology allowed him to see it offered nothing worthwhile. As I wrote to Malcolm while he was leader of the Liberal Party, it is ok to have scruples, conservatives do, and so long as one follows their vision a conservative leader will prosper. By embracing the carbon tax, Malcolm showed he had no vision. He claimed he believed in anthropogenic global warming .. a dangerous belief no rational person can hold. Recently, Mr Turnbull has copied Mr Abbott's expressions of listening more and being more consultative. The truth is he has undermined the leadership for years and it has cost a number of elections as a result. It is to be expected that a conservative Minister is ambitious. But Malcolm is old, past his date as a party leader, and not a natural conservative, fitting more into the role of Moderate. That is why, if there is a spill on Tuesday, I will advocate that Mr Abbott be PM, and Scott Morrison should be Deputy.
Julie Bishop is an outstanding talent and has much to offer the leadership team of the Liberal Party. But she has failed abysmally in any mentoring role of her fellow WA colleagues. Any prospective leader of the Liberal Party must be able to influence their colleagues and work to improve and focus their drive. Instead, Bishop has been embarrassed by her dopy colleagues making outrageously stupid and obstructive comments on a host of issues, so that they threaten to bring the party into disrepute, making it harder to elect. It isn't hard to sell the conservative brand .. they will make you richer. They will give you more than you know and keep it sustainable. But those yokels have delved into tribal 'us vs them' arguments which the ALP employ. And to use an ALP expression, we aren't them.
In 1301, on this day, Edward of Caernarvon became the first Prince of Wales. Later he became Edward II. Just like the longest serving Prince of Wales, Edward was of dubious integrity. In 1497, the 'bonfire of the vanities' occurred in Florence, inspiring book burners to this day. The Action of 7th February 1813 saw a French and a Great British ship squared off for a draw after four hours of fighting. Both ships returned to port to claim victory. Neither ship had had an advantage. In 1856, Tasmania's colonial government passed the second ever legislation providing for a secret ballot. In 1898, Writer Émile Zola was charged with libel for his article J'Accuse which correctly belled the injustice of falsely accusing a Jew of treason and covering it up. In 1935, Monopoly was made a board game. In 1940, Pinocchio, the second full feature length animation was completed by Disney. In 1962, JFK bought his last Cuban cigar. In 1964, Beatles arrived in the US for the first time. In 1979, for the first time since either had been discovered, Pluto went inside Neptune's orbit. In 1990, the Central Committee agreed to give up its' monopoly on power in the Soviet Union. 1995, Ramzi Youssef, who masterminded the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing was arrested in Pakistan. 2009, an inept ALP Victorian government killed 173 from mishandling forest with forest fires. They were returned to government in late 2014.
2014
Some years ago Al Gore put out an example of Pascal's Wager to prevent a Hobson's Choice of embracing AGW hysteria or death for all. The idea was to list options, embrace hysteria or not, matched with the binary possibility of it being real or not. According to Gore, the outcomes were: to address a global warming that was happening; to address a global warming that wasn't happening; to lose everything by failing to address global warming; or, to gain little by business as normal. His rhetoric suggested that Pascal would say that it was wisdom to spend big addressing global warming. But, it was rhetoric, and the actual choices were as follows: Impoverish the poorest and restrict industry from being able to address Global warming in the future; Impoverish the poorest and restrict the ability of industry to grow for no reason; Enable business to change and adapt to a future that is challenging; Enable business to change and adapt to a future that isn't challenging. In the cold hard light of reality, the choice is obvious. If you really believe that Global Warming is a reality, you need to strengthen industry and allow poor people to be able to lift themselves out of poverty and assert what is in their best interests. If Gore's fears are real, then it is important the world find anyone who, like Gore, has stolen trillions of dollars from the poorest people in the world and make them face justice at the Hague, charged with crimes against humanity. I suggest a guillotine as being compassionate justice for the hundred worst offenders.
Bill Shorten was instrumental in changing SPC worker's conditions forever .. according to him. It may well be the most honest thing he has said in public life if, as is possible, SPC closes forever. A monster has married a 12 year old girl in a religious ceremony in NSW. No word as to which religion was involved, but a Lebanese male university student who had married and had a sexual relationship with a 13 year old girl was formally refused bail in Sydney on Friday. It is alleged he had befriended the 12 year old girl at a mosque in the Hunter region. Another boat has been turned back, and no apology from those who said that that could not happen.
Historical perspectives on this day
In 457, Leo I became emperor of the Byzantine Empire. 1074, Pandulf IV of Benevento was killed battling the invading Normans at the Battle of Montesarchio. 1301, Edward of Caernarvon (later King Edward II of England) became the first English Prince of Wales. 1497, the bonfire of the vanities occurred in which supporters of Girolamo Savonarola burned thousands of objects like cosmetics, art, and books in Florence, Italy. 1783, American Revolutionary War: French and Spanish forces lifted the Great Siege of Gibraltar. 1795, the 11th Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified.
In 1807, Napoleonic Wars: Battle of Eylau – Napoléon's French Empire began fighting against Russian and Prussian forces of the Fourth Coalition at Eylau, Poland. 1812, the strongest in a series of earthquakes struck New Madrid, Missouri. 1813, Action of 7 February 1813: stalemate two evenly matched frigates from the French Navy and the British Royal Navy, Aréthuse and HMS Amelia. 1819, Sir Thomas Stamford Raffles left Singapore after just taking it over, leaving it in the hands of William Farquhar. 1842, Battle of Debre Tabor: Ras Ali Alula, Regent of the Emperor of Ethiopia defeated warlord Wube Haile Maryam of Semien. 1856, the colonial Tasmanian Parliament passed the second piece of legislation (the Electoral Act of 1856) anywhere in the world providing for elections by way of a secret ballot.
In 1863, HMS Orpheus sank off the coast of Auckland, New Zealand, killing 189. 1894, the Cripple Creek miner's strike, led by the Western Federation of Miners, began in Cripple Creek, Colorado. 1897, Greco-Turkish War: The first full-scale battle took place when the Greek expeditionary force in Crete defeated a 4,000-strong Ottoman force at Livadeia. 1898, Dreyfus affair: Émile Zola was brought to trial for libel for publishing J'Accuse. 1900, Second Boer War: British troops failed in their third attempt to lift the Siege of Ladysmith. 1904, a fire in Baltimore, Maryland destroyed over 1,500 buildings in 30 hours. 1907, the Mud March was the first large procession organised by the National Union of Women's Suffrage Societies (NUWSS). 1935, the classic board game Monopoly was invented.
In 1940, the second full-length animated Walt Disney film, Pinocchio, premiered. 1943, World War II: Imperial Japanese Navy forces completed the evacuation of Imperial Japanese Army troops from Guadalcanal during Operation Ke, ending Japanese attempts to retake the island from Allied forces in the Guadalcanal Campaign. 1944, World War II: In Anzio, Italy, German forces launched a counteroffensive during the Allied Operation Shingle. 1951, Korean War: 705 suspected communist sympathisers were butchered by South Korean forces. 1962, the United States banned all Cuban imports and exports. 1964, the Beatles first arrive in the United States. Their performance on The Ed Sullivan Show two days later would mark the beginning of the British Invasion. 1974, Grenada gained independence from the United Kingdom. 1979, Pluto moved inside Neptune's orbit for the first time since either was discovered. 1984, Space Shuttle program: STS-41-B Mission – Astronauts Bruce McCandless II and Robert L. Stewart made the first untethered space walk using the Manned Maneuvering Unit (MMU). 1986, twenty-eight years of one-family rule ended in Haiti, when President Jean-Claude Duvalier fled the Caribbean nation.
In 1990, Dissolution of the Soviet Union: The Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party agreed to give up its monopoly on power. 1991, Haiti's first democratically-elected president, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, was sworn in. 1992, the Maastricht Treaty was signed, leading to the creation of the European Union. 1995, Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was arrested in Islamabad, Pakistan. 1999, Crown Prince Abdullah became the King of Jordan on the death of his father, King Hussein. 2009, Bushfires in Victoria left 173 dead in the worst natural disaster in Australia's history. 2012, President Mohamed Nasheed of the Republic of Maldives resigned, after 23 days of anti-governmental protests calling for the release of Chief Judge unlawfully arrested by the military. 2013, at least 51 people were killed in a crash involving a bus and truck in Zambia. 2014, over 350 people were injured in the anti-government unrest in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
===
This column welcomes feedback and criticism. The column is not made up but based on the days events and articles which are then placed in the feed. So they may not have an apparent cohesion they would have had were they made up.
===
Editorials will appear in the "History in a Year by the Conservative Voice" series, starting with August www.createspace.com/4124406, October www.createspace.com/5106951, or at Amazon www.amazon.com/dp/1482020262/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_dVHPub0MQKDZ4 The kindle version is cheaper, but the soft back version allows the purchase of a kindle version for just $3.99 more.
===
For twenty two years I have been responsibly addressing an issue, and I cannot carry on. I am petitioning the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott to remedy my distress. I leave it up to him if he chooses to address the issue. Regardless of your opinion of conservative government, the issue is pressing. Please sign my petition at www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/tony-abbott-remedy-the-persecution-of-dd-ball
Or the US President at
www.change.org/p/barack-obama-change-this-injustice#
or
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/change-injustice-faced-david-daniel-ball-after-he-reported-bungled-pedophile-investigation-and/b8mxPWtJ or wh.gov/ilXYR
Douglas Sutherland-Bruce via David Daniel Ball
Mr Ball, I will not sign your petition as it will do no good, but I will share your message and ask as many of friends who read it, to share it also. Let us see if we cannot use the power of the internet to spread the word of these infamous killings. As a father and a former soldier, I cannot, could not, justify ignoring this appalling action by the perpetrators, whoever they may; I thank you Douglas. You are wrong about the petition. Signing it is as worthless and meaningless an act as voting. A stand up guy would know that. - ed
Lorraine Allen Hider I signed the petition ages ago David, with pleasure, nobody knows what it's like until they've been there. Keep heart David take care.
I have begun a bulletin board (http://theconservativevoice.freeforums.net) which will allow greater latitude for members to post and interact. It is not subject to FB policy and so greater range is allowed in posts. Also there are private members rooms in which nothing is censored, except abuse. All welcome, registration is free.